{"id":2706,"date":"2024-05-03T13:29:24","date_gmt":"2024-05-03T13:29:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/?p=2706"},"modified":"2024-05-03T13:29:25","modified_gmt":"2024-05-03T13:29:25","slug":"shedding-light-on-our-obscurities","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/en\/shedding-light-on-our-obscurities\/","title":{"rendered":"Shedding Light on Our Obscurities"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Darija Lorenci Flatz<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<pre class=\"wp-block-verse\"><strong>Written by: Ivan Ban \nPhotos: Tomislav Mari\u0107 <\/strong><\/pre>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>The acting persona of Daria Lorenci Flatz sheds light on the obscurities within us that we have been in the dark about and sets truths that are anything but pleasant before our eyes. Whether the reason for this is her unique physical appearance or her theatrical skills that set her apart from her colleagues \u2013 it is hard to say. Maybe it is all about her genuine endeavours to heal herself with the truth through art and, by extension, those of us who witness that art.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>How many of our celebrities would be willing to admit that they only fell in love with their face in their late forties? How many celebrities \u2013 not today, but throughout the last few decades \u2013 have openly talked about, for example, anorexia as a serious psychophysiological disorder? Few and far between. Daria Lorenci Flatz has spoken up about all these socially relevant topics and kept the discussion going for decades, helping both herself and us along the way as an artist and a human being.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ivan Planini\u0107\u2019s production of the play \u201cFafarikul\u201d, based on the novel by \u0110ur\u0111ica \u010cili\u0107, recently premiered at Daria\u2019s resident Croatian National Theatre in Zagreb. The story of \u201cFafarikul\u201d, in which Lorenci Flatz plays the lead, follows the fate of Bosnia (where our actress\u2019s story started) and the Bosnian people in the final chapters of the twentieth century. Therefore, it is only natural to start our conversation by asking her what it was like to work on that piece.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Working on \u201cFafarikul\u201d was really challenging, mostly because it wasn\u2019t originally written as a play, but a collection of short stories combined into a novel, which was then adapted into a play by Mirna Rustemovi\u0107 and Ivan Planini\u0107. The first step was to get into the groove and roll with it so as to perform the role as truthfully to the source material as possible, which was quite demanding. All in all, it was a wonderful, enticing, difficult and intense process. We are all happy with the outcome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Considering your war and refugee wounds, has \u201cFafarikul\u201d had a therapeutic effect on you as a sort of poetic, nay, dramatic justice?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The play does not gatekeep access to its meaning for the sake of those who have been through war or lived as refugees. It is, in its own way, a tribute to all our send-offs and wipe-offs, to all our transformations and transitions, which always come with sadness and pain. Thanks to \u0110ur\u0111ica, this play holds that much needed door open to what is yet to come. There is a lot of beauty and catharsis coming out that door, so the play has a therapeutic effect on us, as well as the audience getting a peek into it \u2013 at least that\u2019s how I see it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Has your perception of Bosnia \u2013 that almost mythical dominion \u2013 changed compared to before?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Those of us who left Bosnia have the privilege to see it as mythical. It\u2019s a bit hard for me to go there because I\u2019m afraid that seeing it would photobomb my mental image of it and burst my bubble. It\u2019s an inner wealth, really \u2013 having an entire country inside yourself and for yourself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Your stepped into this year at the Croatian National Theatre in Zagreb by stepping onto the stage on the opening night of \u201cThe Adventurer at the Door\u201d play. Your role was quite interesting \u2013 beyond the realms of reality and life.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I felt like a guest member of the ensemble because I had but a few lines. I only appeared at the beginning and at the end of the play, and I was not as involved in the process as the rest of the ensemble, so I can\u2019t really say much about it. It was certainly interesting for me to reflect on the idea of personification of something so obscure, and breathe life into it with the right equation of sound, silence and contemplation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>In addition to theatrical roles, you\u2019ve also portrayed a lot of characters on screen. Thanks to the \u201cKumovi\u201d TV series, you enter the homes of thousands and thousands of people every night. By your own admission, you started starring in telenovelas, among other things, for the sake of fame. Hearing someone admit that is certainly refreshing&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Fame is indeed very endearing, nice, and flattering. Of course, at times it can also be tiring because I don\u2019t have my make-up on 24\/7 and I\u2019m not in a good mood all the time, and I don\u2019t always have time to deal with people who have certain expectations of me. But it\u2019s really cool to see how much meeting you means to someone because they saw you on television. It\u2019a s Veni, Vidi, Vici experience for me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"683\" height=\"1024\" data-id=\"2693\" src=\"https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3260-683x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2693\" srcset=\"https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3260-683x1024.jpg 683w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3260-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3260-768x1152.jpg 768w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3260-1024x1536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3260.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 683px) 100vw, 683px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"683\" height=\"1024\" data-id=\"2695\" src=\"https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3252-683x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2695\" srcset=\"https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3252-683x1024.jpg 683w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3252-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3252-768x1152.jpg 768w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3252-1024x1536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3252.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 683px) 100vw, 683px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Apart from \u201cKumovi\u201d, you\u2019ve also made headlines thanks to your participation in the Croatian rendition of \u201cDancing with the Stars\u201d. Before you got into acting, you wanted to become a dancer. Is there enough room for exploring movement in the Drama Ensemble of the Croatian National Theatre?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There\u2019s always room for physical expression and thinking with your body because it\u2019s part of being a performer, as well as a personal starting point of which you can\u2019t become aware or lose sight under the influence of others. You can always get more leeway, and the creative team may sometimes even put a spotlight on the physical aspect of a role, but in general the performer themselves makes the move, and the ones calling the shots either respond to it or not. People pick you based on your acting and performing tendencies, and I was always lucky enough to hit the spot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Has your perception of your physical appearance changed over the years?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Very much so. I don\u2019t know exactly what happened, but I feel amazing in my skin now. I\u2019m about to turn 48 and I have never felt prettier. For the first time ever, I feel like a beautiful woman. I\u2019m just sad it happened so late, but better late than never.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019ve never revelled in my body and my sense of self as much as I do now. Our appearance and its image in our psyche set us up for success. I\u2019ve mostly gotten roles of difficult, headstrong, and complex women because I have a very specific look and strong features \u2013 I\u2019ve never been a pretty face and a typical belle, so my face was a perfect fit for such roles. In fact, I lucked out as an actress. As much as I always lamented not having softer features, my face still took me places.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Both \u201cAdventurer at the Door\u201d and \u201cFafarikul\u201d raise the question of personal freedom. Do you believe that man has but little freedom? How would you define freedom in general?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For something called freedom, it\u2019s quite unattainable to man. Most of us fear it: we are afraid of overstepping boundaries, which is actually a natural and normal part of the urge for self-preservation, because otherwise we might get killed. How much a person is willing to challenge their own boundaries is an individual matter. In any case, it\u2019s always better to challenge your own than someone else\u2019s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When it comes to freedom, what bothers me the most is the fact that people take it at the expense of others, which often gets very ugly. Take smoking as an example, which is regulated by our law to a certain degree. I\u2019m a former smoker \u2013 took me two times. I\u2019ve been a non-smoker for two months now, but even when I used to smoke, and when it wasn\u2019t strictly regulated by law, I always wondered if the smoke bothered the people around me. There are a lot of smokers who don\u2019t think twice about it, and they even nonchalantly light up a cigarette in non-smoking areas. They often even feel like they\u2019re breaking the chains by chain smoking at places where it\u2019s not allowed. They twist the fact that what they\u2019re doing bothers people and has a harmful effect not only on them, but also on the people around them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However, man has the freedom to think that this is not true. That\u2019s how it goes with freedom&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Following up on freedom \u2013 what are your thoughts on your free time? You have your own studio, you play both at the Croatian National Theatre in Zagreb and other theatres, you also do TV series and movies&#8230; Do you enjoy all of the above so much that you don\u2019t even think about free time in the traditional sense of the word?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I really love what I do, so I don\u2019t perceive work like most people and I don\u2019t pit it against \u201cfree time\u201d. For the most part, I feel that I don\u2019t work just because I have to \u2013 it is how I choose to spend my time. Of course, I need some free time as well, but after a while I can\u2019t wait to get back to work. I like to rest, spend time with my family, but I really love working.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Everyone laughed at me when I went to my 4sobe studio on New Year\u2019s and did an hour\u2019s training. I think this is called being a workaholic (laughter).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>You started your career at the Exit Theatre in Zagreb. What is your opinion on the alternative scene of today? How much has it changed compared to the late 1990s and early 2000s?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s hard for me to talk about the alternative scene now. One second I feel like saying it\u2019s flourishing, and the next it seems to me that it\u2019s gotten lazy. I don\u2019t know, maybe I\u2019m just less involved than I was before. On the other hand, I feel like we had more opportunities when we were young, like we were in high gear and put on a lot of showstoppers. Again, I\u2019m not the right person to answer that question. Due to my busy schedule, I spend more time on stage than in the audience. It is possible that the alternative scene is truly flourishing, and I\u2019m just missing it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>In \u201cFafarikul\u201d, you play alongside \u017divko Ano\u010di\u0107, who recently joined the drama ensemble of the Croatian National Theatre in Zagreb. Has anything changed following his arrival?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m really happy that \u017divko joined our ensemble. Words cannot describe how wonderful it is to play alongside him. He is one of a kind, a true gem, and I could go on about his qualities for hours. We have a special bond \u2013 his brother, Sa\u0161a Ano\u010di\u0107, who is no longer with us, had a great influence on me, and I have the feeling that we belong to the same theatre family, even though this is the first time we\u2019re working on a play together. Our bond is deep, inconspicuous, and nothing short of divine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u017divko\u2019s sensitivity, restraint, modesty, and the ability to keep things to himself make up his star quality. It is so wonderful and enticing. One can never get enough of watching him and interacting with him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-2 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"683\" height=\"1024\" data-id=\"2697\" src=\"https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3203-683x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2697\" srcset=\"https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3203-683x1024.jpg 683w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3203-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3203-768x1152.jpg 768w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3203-1024x1536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3203.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 683px) 100vw, 683px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"873\" height=\"1024\" data-id=\"2703\" src=\"https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3212-873x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2703\" srcset=\"https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3212-873x1024.jpg 873w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3212-256x300.jpg 256w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3212-768x901.jpg 768w, https:\/\/symbol-quorum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/MG_3212.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 873px) 100vw, 873px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>We cannot miss out on the chance to talk about your title role in the \u201cMarija Juri\u0107 Zagorka\u201d play.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I consider this performance my personal Guinness world record (laughter). It lasted four hours and I\u2019d lose two kilograms after each performance. There were around fifty actors and two hundred scenes included in the play!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The opening night was the first time we performed the play in its entirety, and we had staged it in just six weeks. The week before the premiere, it lasted six hours \u2013 the amount of source text was wild. My twins were one and a half years old then, and Mak had an ear infection for thirty days. I will never forget that super-human effort&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I have achieved most of the things in my life through hard work and I am really proud of that. It truly warms my heart. This role landed me a spot in the ensemble of the Croatian National Theatre in Zagreb, and for that I\u2019ll always consider it my pride and joy. I\u2019ll never forget the sense of commonality, exhilaration, and elation after each performance. Playing Marija Juri\u0107 Zagorka from cradle to grave was intoxicating.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Where did you get the courage to talk about everything so openly, without holding back? About the reasons you did telenovelas, your beauty, and finally, battling anorexia?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>An open conversation is the only conversation worth having. I guess that\u2019s how I act on stage as well, it\u2019s the nature of my vocation; a vocation that serves as a tool for understanding yourself and the world around you, for exploring, observing, and keeping some distance from the projection of your hintergedanken upon others. Just like in therapy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019ve been in therapy all my life, ever since the war, and ultimately because of my anorexia and need for introspection. Acting is also a sort of therapy because it constantly makes you open up and dig deep into your soul. Consistent communication with the people around me and sharing my experiences in order to be understood have always been my default settings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If I do decide not to talk about something, it\u2019s always with the aim of protecting my loved ones \u2013 because sometimes, in my desire to shed some light on an issue, I could call attention to people who wish to be left alone, so I stop myself. But if I don\u2019t risk invading anyone\u2019s privacy, I have a need to talk about my \u201cEverything Everywhere All at Once\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>It\u2019s been twenty years since the \u201cSorry for Kung Fu\u201d movie premiered. Is that role important to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course. It put me on the map as a movie actress, as someone who\u2019s there to stay. People started seeing me as a serious actress and offers started coming in, and they haven\u2019t petered out to this day. There are slower days, but, in general, I\u2019m blessed with \u201cfilm continuity\u201d, so I consider myself extremely lucky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Time flies. How do you, as an actress, come to terms with that fact?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For some reason, I just can\u2019t seem to make and maintain peace with transience. I have these conversations with myself when I realise I\u2019m not the first choice for a part and when it seems like time is standing still while my biological clock is ticking on. And then it all changes again&#8230; You should never wait for others to invite you to their table \u2013 you got to roll up your sleeves and make your own table.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All my life I\u2019ve tried to find something for myself out there. I didn\u2019t sit and wait. This attitude helped me through moments when my career came to a standstill. That\u2019s how I act the part: I know that the show must go on even if the crew went home.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Daria Lorenci Flatz\u2019s dreams are&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Work out on a daily basis, star in plays, and work on my social media skills \u2013 that\u2019s my new pastime&#8230; Also, my 4sobe studio, my family, my children, and my dog. 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